The secrets behind Ginyu Force's techniques

[TheRed259]

I just found this on Facebook. I don't know where this is coming from so if anyone has more info about it please let me know.



Recoome became agile so that he can make poses while he was performing some classic dances.

Burter had a very severe mother that forced him everyday to buy for her things to cook. If he didn't get back to home very quickly, his mother would punish him. And that’s how Burter became so fast.

Captain Ginyu took the body of the richest boy in the class so that he becomes popular among girls. That was the first time that he realized he has the ability to change bodies with somebody.

Guldo developed his technique while he was temporarily stopping time in order to act like Master Roshi.

Jeice developed his Crusher Ball while he was participating at a intergalactic Baseball game.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I've seen this picture posted here before, but it was quite a while back. I want to say it was from a video game's booklet?

[DarkPrince_92]

I love all of this and it's now added to my personal canon.

[Herms]

It's from the strategy guide for the Famicom RPG Gekishin! Furiiza/"Violent God! Freeza". I paraphrased its contents a long time ago in the translation request thread, but there's not really much to add that wasn't said already:

Burta's mother was very strict, making him do all the household chores and slapping him if he was late preparing dinner, but because of this he became the fastest in the universe. Recoom practiced dance, which is how he got his agility and various battle poses. When Ginyu first learned of his Change ability, he swapped bodies with the richest kid in his class. This made him popular with girls, but also stupid, and he realized that men should compete in terms of strength (rather than money, it's implied). Jhees was a pitcher in the Galactic Little League, and it was there that he developed the Crusher Ball as his special technique. Ghurd realized he had psychic powers as a kid; he was a real brat, using his powers to lift up girls' skirts and steal whatever toys he wanted.

The feature is titled "Us Back Then", and the idea is that it's the members of the Ginyu Force describing their childhoods, though it does end up mostly focusing on the origins of their special techniques. It doesn't look like anything is said about whether or not Toriyama had a hand in this.

[linkdude20002001]

This is pretty interesting none the less. Oh, and Herms, just curious, what was your method for transliterating(?) the names for the Ginyu Special Rangers (/whatever)? I personally go with what's closest to the word their names come from, so Jeese, Berta, Reacoom, and Gurd is what I got. Though I'm not sure if I like the OO in Reacoom... But anyways, just curious.

[Herms]

Oh yeah, there also doesn't appear to be any credit saying who drew those images of the Ginyu Force members as kids. The images of them as adults are taken right from the manga of course, but the images of them as kids definitely don't look like Toriyama's style.

I continue to be amused at how no attempt is made to have the people on Ginyu and Gurd's planets look any different than Earthlings. You'd think they would look like Ginyu/Gurd, or at least wear weird clothes or something.

Oh, and Herms, just curious, what was your method for transliterating(?) the names for the Ginyu Special Rangers (/whatever)? I personally go with what's closest to the word their names come from, so Jeese, Berta, Reacoom, and Gurd is what I got. Though I'm not sure if I like the OO in Reacoom... But anyways, just curious.

I feel like I spell their names differently every time I write them...Well, I guess I'm relatively consistent with "Gurd" because that's closest to the pun and also shortest. More often than not I go with "Jheese" to try and make the pun obvious, but I pretty much give up when it comes to Burta. "Reacoom" is probably the best option, but I think use "Recoom" more because I really am that lazy. I guess something like "ReaCoom" or even "Reac'm" would really hammer the pun home, but I think they look kind of ridiculous and I don't it's necessarily good to make the pun too blindingly obvious.

[TheRed259]

Thanks! I was wondering because I had never seen Toriyama before talking about this in any of his interviews (at least the ones that are translated here in Kanzenshuu).

[B]

These are amazing and absolutely official to me.

[Akumaito Beam]

Yeah, this is rad. I think the important question here is did Recoome come up with the idea of posing and Ginyu dug it? I always assumed Ginyu was the one coming up with all the poses and dances. Maybe Recoome was the mastermind all along. This literally changes everything. Forget your Super Saiyan whateverthefuck and your long lost siblings. This is the real deal.

[Marco Polo]

Yeah, this is rad. I think the important question here is did Recoome come up with the idea of posing and Ginyu dug it? I always assumed Ginyu was the one coming up with all the poses and dances. Maybe Recoome was the mastermind all along. This literally changes everything. Forget your Super Saiyan whateverthefuck and your long lost siblings. This is the real deal.

Maybe they just all have the same appreciation for dancing and posing.

[Naughty Kinto Un]

One of my favorite recurring speculations is how many bodies Ginyu had used up before becoming horned and purple, so it's always mildly disappointing to find official art treating that body as his original; even if this one's only for a video game guide. I'd love to see a back story, either from Toriyama or overseen by him, of the Ginyu Force's formation. Actually, I'd be fine with that as a spin-off series, the rise of the Ginyu Force and their clashes with... dun dun DUNNN, the Galactic Patrolmen! Or... maybe the Ginyu Force are former Galactic Patrolmen fallen from grace. OK, now I'm resisting the urge to write fan-fiction. Agh, itchy typing finger, stop trembling!

[Herms]

One of my favorite recurring speculations is how many bodies Ginyu had used up before becoming horned and purple, so it's always mildly disappointing to find official art treating that body as his original; even if this one's only for a video game guide.

Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that, but I guess it is a little contradictory. The backstory for Sauzer/Thouser in DBZ movie 5 says he's one of the few people who knows Ginyu's original form, and Ginyu's Daizenshuu 7 bio says he's changed bodies a lot of times too. Of course, it could be that while he's gone through several bodies, more than one of them have been from that same purple horned race, which happens to be his original race too. In other words, he started out with a purple horned body, and ended with a purple horned body...but a different purple horned body than the one he started with. Or something.

[hleV]

I love all of this and it's now added to my personal canon.

Do you add everything you like to your personal canon? Can it also work the other way around, as in, can I disregard anything I dislike? Not that I'm to question someone else's headcanon, but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "what I believe makes sense to be canon" as opposed to "I like it so it's canon". I mean... people don't consider fanfics canon even if they find to like them... Do they?

[DarkPrince_92]

I'm not serious lol. Probably doesn't come across well online. Burter's fast because mommy's a bitch... why would anyone be serious about that?

[KaiserNeko]

Hey, this is MY headcanon. And it works, because it doesn't necessarily contradict anything.

Even Ginyu's is easily rationalized by suggesting that, the only reason we see the version of Ginyu we see there is because they wanted to give us a familiar face to let us know it's Ginyu in there; not necessarily indicative of the body he had at the time. I.E. artistic license.

Also, "why would anyone be serious about that"? Silliness and the Ginyu Force go hand in hand!

[ImmaDeker]

Burter had a very severe mother that forced him everyday to buy for her things to cook. If he didn't get back to home very quickly, his mother would punish him. And that’s how Burter became so fast.

I wish every high level of power in Dragonball came from something this mundane. This is amazing.

Do you add everything you like to your personal canon? Can it also work the other way around, as in, can I disregard anything I dislike? Not that I'm to question someone else's headcanon, but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "what I believe makes sense to be canon" as opposed to "I like it so it's canon". I mean... people don't consider fanfics canon even if they find to like them... Do they?

Are you a real person?

[testing223]

I support this as canon!

[Valerius Dover]

Seeing this makes me wish they weren't killed off like other henchmen.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I love all of this and it's now added to my personal canon.

Do you add everything you like to your personal canon? Can it also work the other way around, as in, can I disregard anything I dislike? Not that I'm to question someone else's headcanon, but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "what I believe makes sense to be canon" as opposed to "I like it so it's canon". I mean... people don't consider fanfics canon even if they find to like them... Do they?

Sure, why not? I mean, so long as it doesn't contradict things (or at least not the things you don't want contradicted), then why not? Such is the glory of the 'personal head-canon'. I still consider much of Online's backstory, and likewise the 'Journey's End' fanfiction, to be part of my own.

[Tanooki Kuribo]

I could have sworn this was on the podcast at some point. Hmm...