Movie Title Changes

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:48 am

Of the movies which had significant title changes when brought to North America, any would you guys say you preferred the changed title to the original title? For myself, I'd have to say I prefer movie 4's title change to "Lord Slug" over its original Super Saiyan Son Goku, as that title isn't very accurate. Same is for "Curse of the Blood Rubies".

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:45 am

I'd like to see how they'd fit "Clash!! 10,000,000,000 Powerful Warriors" on the front of the dvd purely for amusement purposes.

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:13 am

I'm aware of their Japanese titles but the things are just so damn unweildy with the running on for multiple sentances and all that I've never really used them. I stick to english titles or refering to them by their bad-guy's name (which.. is most of their names actually) or their number. I tend to refer to movie 13 as some remix of "super ultra cool mega awesome powerful dragooon punch!", but I don't think that counts

I find their ridiculous spoilerrificness fantastic though.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:56 am

Yeah but some of the English titles are weird too like Movie 13 being named Wrath of the Dragon, which makes it seem like the villain is a Dragon or something weird. I would have much rather them just simply title the movies DB/Z Movie # ___

And if Super Android 13 isn't spoilerriffic compared to "Extreme Battle!! The Battle of the Three Great Super Saiyans", where there's no mention that 13 transforms, then it must take a lot to please you.

Also how does 100 million translate into 10 Billion? That's a bit off by about, 9,900,000,000.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:59 am

I always did like "Tree of Might" for DBZ movie 3, though I also like the Japanese title. I think the disadvantage with the Japanese titles is that half of them could be applied to any of the movies ('Super Descive Battle for the Entire Planet Earth' being the perfect example). With Funimation's titles, they can be pretty bland, but you always know exactly which one they're talking about. Although I do get "Cooler's Revenge" and "The Return of Cooler" missed up sometimes.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:58 am

The original titles are unwieldy (and usually nondescript) and the Funi titles are bland (and sometimes confusing). I usually just refer to the movie by it's chronological number and/or the main villain. DBZ movie 1: Garlic Jr, DBZ movie 10: Broli 2, etc.

Post by **TripleRach** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:02 am

The dub titles are sort of nice in that most of them are a lot more obvious than the Japanese titles. But like Herms, I also mix up FUNi's titles for DBZ Movies 5 and 6, since they both sound like they apply to Movie 6 more than 5. Although I can remember most of the Japanese titles because of the ending songs, though I do constantly mix up the titles for DBZ Movies 10 and 11.

Being the anal purist that I am, though, I still prefer the original titles and hate all of the dub ones just because they were changed, with the exceptions of the really literal ones (DB Movie 2 and 3) and the ones that are close enough to be tolerable (DB Movie 4, DBZ Movie 2 and 12).

dragondyle · Post by **dragondyle** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:25 pm

I am very pleased with Funimation that they use the title Fusion Reborn for movie 12. It's pretty damn close to the original Japanese title. Same goes for movie 2 and DB movie 2, 3, and 4. Though the title for movie 13, Wrath of the Dragon, is very poor. I think they should have called it Wrath of the Dragon Fist. They could also have stuck to the original title and call it Dragon Fist Explosion, or something to that effect.

Sedorna · Post by **Sedorna** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:53 pm

Vekurotto wrote: And if Super Android 13 isn't spoilerriffic compared to "Extreme Battle!! The Battle of the Three Great Super Saiyans", where there's no mention that 13 transforms, then it must take a lot to please you.

Actually, when I first heard the title, I read the "Super" in the title as being a synonym for "totally awesome" as in "Goku and co. are gonna fight the totally awesome Android 13!" So, in such a sense, the actual title doesn't specify that Android 13 transforms.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:25 pm

Sedorna wrote:Actually, when I first heard the title, I read the "Super" in the title as being a synonym for "totally awesome" as in "Goku and co. are gonna fight the totally awesome Android 13!". So, in such a sense, the actual title doesn't specify that Android 13 transforms.

Except that it's not and it does imply that he transforms. Also,

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa96 ... intout.jpg

The cover arts don't lie.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:26 pm

Is it really a spoiler than Android 13 would transform? I mean, every Big Bad after King Piccolo transforms at least once.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:36 pm

^ Pretty much it tells you to skip the first 30 mins of the movie and go straight to the part when #13 starts transforming since you know eventually it'll happen. In all seriousness, I think whatever sense of shock that would come from seeing him transform would be gone if you knew that he was going to do it.

I mean when I first saw the movie the transformation was pretty surprising because I didn't know it would happen. I just thought it was a bad move on Funi's part.

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:58 am

Vekurotto wrote:And if Super Android 13 isn't spoilerriffic compared to "Extreme Battle!! The Battle of the Three Great Super Saiyans", where there's no mention that 13 transforms, then it must take a lot to please you.

I guess I've known for so long that that happens it didn't occur to me as a spoiler. I don't take most of the movies very seriously, so that could be it too. The movies and their titles are mainly silly in both languages. Cool, but silly.

The thing I had particurally in mind when I was saying about the spoilerrific note were some of the episodes ("Ferocity of the Saiya-jin! Kami-sama and Piccolo Both Die!" being a jem in that category).

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:55 am

Always have referred to the movies simply by number back since the fansub days since the original titles were pretty vebose as has already been stated. XP To me it's just a lot easier and simpler all around even with official NA release titles now.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:41 am

I'm a horrible fan, so I don't remember the names of the movies outright, and generally go with numbers or name of villain. I don't remember the FUNi names either, and could honestly care less.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:10 am

The only movie title from FUNimation that confuses me is "Cooler's Revenge". Every single time, it makes me think it's the second Cooler movie, yet it's the first. The second is the "Return of Cooler". Geez. Why would they call it his revenge? I mean I know why, but seriously, it's confusing.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:40 am

If you think about it, the first movie had more of him wanting revenge in the first place. The second one just had where he was going to get it on Earth but their arrival saved him the trouble of going there.

Death-T · Post by **Death-T** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:28 am

I've actually been thinking about this latley and might've eventually started a topic about it. =p

Anyway,Japanese titles are long and hard to remember, and they don't as clearly describe which movie they belong to. If you gave me the Japanese title of any of the DBZ movies I wouldn't know which one you're talking about. So I just prefer using the FUNimation titles, those are the ones I know. They're short and simple. I do generally like the Japanese titles better, but when it comes to reference and knowledge, I would have to say the Funi titles.