Kanzenshuu

Vegeta can't be less 180,000 first off or the new model of scouter wouldn't have shattered (the same exact model as Ginyu's). Freeza also powered up right before he charged at Vegeta. So he wasn't at a resting power any more. Vegeta also not only caught Freeza's hand but held it at bay. That would ...

Freeza did power up against Vegeta though. Piccolo mentions it by the likes of saying, his chi is getting greater. Freeza must be getting ready to fight. It's along those lines. I would suggest that Freeza was at full power. He was extremly pissed before and during his power up. There would be no ...

I should have been more specific. I was talking about Vegeta's beat down from Reacoom not Zarbon. In which he was stronger than monster Zarbon at first and when healed stronger than Jheese. Then with the nap he took, which should be considered part as the same power increase, Vegeta was able to ...

And the damage to his body isn't even that bad. Sure, he's hurting and needs help to walk, but on Earth, Vegeta stomped on his legs(breaking them) and then squeezed him until his arms and ribs broke, then smashed him against the rocks. Goku couldn't lift his arm or even move at all and didn't get ...

I don't think the Namek dragonballs have the year limitation. They didn't have a rule of bringing back a person only once. Nothing of the sort was mentioned.

Also Kuririn didn't go above 23,000. He was most likly equal or lower. Ginyu later ended up with the upper hand in the last panel. He was matching Kuririn and at the end had Gohan in his clutches. If he was really over powered he wouldn't have been able to match Kuririn and also hold off Gohan.

Roshi admitted that Tenshinhan would have won the fight and Ten hadn't gone all out either. Chaozu told Tsuru-Sennin that Tenshinhan was finally go all out and this was during his fight with Goku.

Kuririn may have been the first to demonstrate the technique but Goku could have learned it first. I ...

Goku yelled damn you to Boo when he was charging towards him. Goku definatly looked scared and already had a sweat drop on him. Goku also wouldn't fight Boo with Piccolo as his main power. If Goku felt that he stood a chance he would have done so right there and fought Boo.

Yes Yamcha does have the kaio sigil. It is one the front of his gi but is not in volume 28 for some reason. Yamcha also has the kaio sigil on his gi in movie 3.

Freeza powered up to his max. Piccolo even comments that Freeza was getting ready to fight.

Uh, it wasn't 12,000 it was over 21,000 when Roshi asked what Goku's power was.

Vegeta actually powers up another time after seeing kaio-ken. Vegeta talks along the lines of showing what a real saiyan can do. Basically its Vegeta full power >> Vegeta near full power >> Goku kaio-ken >> Goku. Vegeta's full power and near full power are inbetween 17,000 and 22,000, because Vegeta ...

When is this 10,000 power spoken about? And what was the line in the original Japanese movie version?

Problem with Burdock is that he wasn't a super elite but a low class warrior, like his sons. He really should be only be half of 10,000, because even then that would seem powerful for a low class warrior.

Well Lord Kaio-sama says Goku was already using kaio-ken and that was to Tenshinhan. Tenshinhan brings up kaio-ken around the time Freeza goes half power, 50%. Goku was starting to lose at that point and Tenshinhan believes Goku still has an ace in his hand, the kaio-ken.

I think the studio behind those levels were going on the idea that Goku without kaio-ken was stronger than Vegeta. Goku after all had no aura for several scenes of that fight. Not only that but Vegeta called Goku a super saiyan. Vegeta only thought a super saiyan was a really strong and ruthless ...

So then this is the correct version? The one at the end of the 300 is the symbol for million? I don't know what the symbol between the 1 and 2 mean? Could you clear this up for me?

That's the 'supposed offical powers' as made for the Daizenshuu's originally. Other translations have since come out with the lower PLs. Personally, I take the lower ones as the true ones and the originals as typos or just plain absurdity. Going from 90,000 to 3,000,000 is just way too much of a ...

Goku vs Freeza: 300,000
SSJ Goku: 15,000,000
Freeza (50% of his 4th form): 6,000,000
Freeza (max): 12,000,000
Wait how come the numbers 3.000.000 and 150.000.000 for Goku and 60.000.000 and 120.000.000 for Freeza in the French daizenshuu. And the Japanese translation checks out to be the same ...

Besides the fact that Goku didn't equal Tenshinhan or Piccolo Daimao, when he fought them.