Kanzenshuu

From what I can understand so far, maybe the series will cover pre-BoG, go through BoG and fill the gap between it and Resurrection F, possibly going beyond Resurrection F. (if 'Fat' Beerus is as strong as Beerus, even at their strength level during 'F' they can't beat him)

Anyone else think it ...

One arc when Vegeta gets to be the main protagonist or beat one major villain, just ONE please :D

Then I'd be able and want to see the mantle passed on to new characters.

Just my opinion of course :) I personally like seeing Whiss point out Vegeta/Goku's weaknesses and train them to go beyond ...

Amidst all this talk about Sorbet catching Goku off guard or not being sensed by him and being able to damage him despite the power level gap, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the even bigger plot-hole of Vegeta dying by Earth's destruction. I mean come on, he used to destroy planets for a living ...

Super excited for this still can't believe it's real, this is amazing!

Let's hope it explores the 12 Universes BoG set up for us; it would be fitting to dedicate an arc to them, rather than a movie or two, to avoid it being rushed.

Heh,the off guard thing was obviously some plot stupidity to make goku lose but not lose to freeza;s power directly so vegeta can stand a chance without being stronger than goku ^^

Best not to think to much about it.

except for the fact that Vegeta and Goku are pretty close in power this time ...

But when he loses, that's when he undergoes development. His craftiness on Namek. His contemplation of and achievement of a new Super Saiyan form after losing to 18. Him finally showing that he cares about Trunks after Cell kills him. Him realizing what it will take to stop(?) Buu. His admission ...

Freeza was tired after fighting Goku and must have literally pissed in his... well he doesnt have pants so lets just say he went wee wee after Vegeta went blue saiyan on him, on that moment yes he knew he was fcked IF Vegeta was playing it smart and actually killed Freeza from the get go but naaah ...

Because of the fans that actually thinks Vegeta looked badass while some of us fail to see which part he looked badass and had a win. I already stated Goku has a flaw despite being a great martial artist, AT kinda shoved it down our throats, Beerus said it, Whis said it, Freeza said it, Vegeta ...

Who says Goku won? we all know Goku lost as well due to his being over confident =foreshadowed a lot of times.

As I said before, they both lost in the end because of their character flaws. Vegeta probably took too long to finish Freeza off, giving him enough time to blow up the planet, and Goku ...

This, however, is not in universe discussion. As the movie occurred, Vegeta lost the first fight, was about to lose the second, and Goku, with help from Whis, saved the day.

Goku saved the day because he knew Freeza was going to blow up the planet. Ever heard of the phrase 'hindsight is 20/20 ...

All this talk about Vegeta losing, but no one taking into account that Goku lost as well. They both let their guard down, the difference is that when Vegeta did it Freeza was even more desperate because it was his second beating, and Sorbet was dead (killed by Vegeta to try and SAVE Goku btw). The ...

This Vegeta situation is somewhat humorous if you take into account that Gohan went through something pretty similar during the Cell Game. He finally obtains the power and opportunity to be the hero, and attempts to blow himself up along with everybody. Only Freeza did it better. Does everybody ...

Only 2 people on this forum have seen the movie so far and they haven't commented on this situation.



Julian who saw the movie said he really shined.

https://twitter.com/saiyajedi/status/582546968070598656

Yet for some reason there are people trying to argue that he didn't.

Was more ...

Its like they constantly refresh the thread awaiting someone to say something positive about Vegeta so that they can get back at him lol almost impressive as it seems they don't have anything better to do and fail to contribute whatsoever.

Only 2 people on this forum have seen the movie so far and ...

Its like they constantly refresh the thread awaiting someone to say something positive about Vegeta so that they can get back at him lol almost impressive as it seems they don't have anything better to do and fail to contribute whatsoever.

Only 2 people on this forum have seen the movie so far and ...

We have a pretty detailed summary. There's nothing wrong with criticizing plot points. And there's little worse than people who blindly accept everything as great and don't have an opinion of their own on things. Criticism is great and necessary. But of course I agree that exaggerated negativity ...

Vegeta dies because of the lack of oxygen is stupid too
He decided to destroy the earth when he fighted Goku
And in Battle of Gods,Goku can breath in the space. People may say that because Goku had god power.But now Vegeta has,too

In BoG they were still within Earth's atmosphere it seems. But I ...

I'd rather take Goku's over confidence getting shot than Vegeta being nervous to fight Freeza even after he consumed the god form and taking on a weak Freeza lol, its like AT tells us ''yea people, Vegeta is still Freeza's b*tch even after all these years''

No, thats mostly you being biased ...

Whis while training Goku said he is too relaxed and over confident in his abilities, he was looking down on a worn down Freeza he thinks the battle is done,he was being over confident and didnt expect anything can hurt him since Freeza was down so he probably lowered his ki, we all know how ...

Why does everybody talk about these fights like they are a WWE/UFC match? It doesn't matter who won or lost. They are just parts of the character's story.

Because fans of the 2-3 (if you count freeza) protagonists are trying to fight/figure out who was the strongest in terms of power level in ...