Season Set Flaws - GET OVER IT!!!

[MajinVejitaXV]

I didn't say that I thought either was better than the other. I said I don't prefer one over the other. I KNOW DragonBox is much better.

It's not that, it's just...I dunno how anyone could see those two clips and go, "Hm...ya know, I really don't prefer either one." It literally renders me speechless.

-Corey

[Kaboom]

Hehehe. I think most people who reply to these threads don't even read what the OT posts anymore. I think that if you like the sets, good for you, you shouldn't be made fun of for it if that's all you say (which does happen here). But if you tell them that it is good, and they should like it, expect to get yelled at.

It's just like with music. People can't tell the difference between what is good and what they like.

I LIKE the Sex Pistols. Do I realize that they have very very little talent? YES. I LOVE the Season box sets, do I realize the quality could be a whole lot better, and that funi lied? YES.

When people can realize these things, the world will be a lot better.

Precisely. That's all I'm saying. Not that they're good, just that I like them anyway.

It's not that, it's just...I dunno how anyone could see those two clips and go, "Hm...ya know, I really don't prefer either one." It literally renders me speechless.

Well, I'm being honest. Don't know what else to tell ya.

[MajinVejitaXV]

Well, I'm being honest. Don't know what else to tell ya.

Don't get me wrong, that's perfectly fine. I just don't get it. It's like someone looking at a beat up Ford Pinto and a new Dodge Viper and saying, "Hm, I don't prefer either one."

-Corey

[Kaboom]

Well, I'm being honest. Don't know what else to tell ya.

Don't get me wrong, that's perfectly fine. I just don't get it. It's like someone looking at a beat up Ford Pinto and a new Dodge Viper and saying, "Hm, I don't prefer either one."

-Corey

But when all you want to do is get from Point A to Point B, it, in a practical sense, doesn't really matter which you pick. That's my stance.

I haven't been collecting FUNi's DVDs for the past decade or so like some folks have, nor do I have the time or money to pursue the DragonBoxes, nor do I understand Japanese in order to enjoy watching them. I just want to watch and understand the friggin' series, and, as bad as they may be, the Season Sets are my only practical and feasible option to do so. By all means, I still wish they were better.

[MajinVejitaXV]

But when all you want to do is get from Point A to Point B, it, in a practical sense, doesn't really matter which you pick. That's my stance.

If the only concern you have is to view the show, completely disregarding the quality and so forth, why not just download it off BitTorrent?

I'm not condoning piracy, I'm just making a point.

-Corey

[Kaboom]

Cuz I suck with Torrents.

And the season sets are legal.

[desirecampbell]

It's just like with music. People can't tell the difference between what is good and what they like.

And that's fine. Noone's saying that anyone is a "bad fan" if they like the widescreen. The entirety of this thread is 'the season sets look good - even as good as the DragonBox'. This is exactly what JJGP is saying and trying to convince others of. He's trying to convince other people to believe lies. This, I find morally objectionable.

I LIKE the Sex Pistols. Do I realize that they have very very little talent? YES. I LOVE the Season box sets, do I realize the quality could be a whole lot better, and that funi lied? YES.
When people can realize these things, the world will be a lot better.
And Desire, I honestly don't care if you or Funi think I am an idiot.

I don't think you're an idiot - clearly Funi does - but I don't care one way or the other. As long as everyone realizes the goddamn facts. Everything Funi said was a lie, and these sets are of significantly lower quality than the ones we were getting (to say nothing of the DragonBox).

You like the overblown, washed out, darkened, cropped, ripped, damaged video? Fine. Just don't say it isn't overblown, washed out, darkened, cropped, ripped, and damaged.

If the only concern you have is to view the show, completely disregarding the quality and so forth, why not just download it off BitTorrent?
I'm not condoning piracy, I'm just making a point.
-Corey

Pfft - the one's I've found on free and open torrent sites are all better quality.

[ect5150]

You know what? I downloaded and watched the two comparison videos (were they in this thread or another one?), and to be completely honest, I don't prefer one over the other.

...I'm speechless.

-Corey

Keep in mind those comparison shots were kind to the season sets. None of the scenes suffered from the junk screen shots that we see posted (except the widescreen stuff).

If we posted a Nappa 'tooth-paste' comparison shot, opinions may be different.

[balrog]

I guess you missed the point of my post, Desire. I wasn't saying that you were persecuting people who were just saying that they like the sets, I know you weren't. I was trying to get the message across to jjp and some others.

Fine. Just don't say it isn't overblown

Precisely what I just said.

[Castor Troy]

You know what? I downloaded and watched the two comparison videos (were they in this thread or another one?), and to be completely honest, I don't prefer one over the other.

...I'm speechless.

-Corey

Keep in mind those comparison shots were kind to the season sets. None of the scenes suffered from the junk screen shots that we see posted (except the widescreen stuff).

If we posted a Nappa 'tooth-paste' comparison shot, opinions may be different.

During every major battle, he always needs to brush his teeth.

[jjgp1112]

It's just like with music. People can't tell the difference between what is good and what they like.

And that's fine. Noone's saying that anyone is a "bad fan" if they like the widescreen. The entirety of this thread is 'the season sets look good - even as good as the DragonBox'. This is exactly what JJGP is saying and trying to convince others of. He's trying to convince other people to believe lies. This, I find morally objectionable.

I LIKE the Sex Pistols. Do I realize that they have very very little talent? YES. I LOVE the Season box sets, do I realize the quality could be a whole lot better, and that funi lied? YES.
When people can realize these things, the world will be a lot better.
And Desire, I honestly don't care if you or Funi think I am an idiot.

I don't think you're an idiot - clearly Funi does - but I don't care one way or the other. As long as everyone realizes the goddamn facts. Everything Funi said was a lie, and these sets are of significantly lower quality than the ones we were getting (to say nothing of the DragonBox).

You like the overblown, washed out, darkened, cropped, ripped, damaged video? Fine. Just don't say it isn't overblown, washed out, darkened, cropped, ripped, and damaged.

If the only concern you have is to view the show, completely disregarding the quality and so forth, why not just download it off BitTorrent?
I'm not condoning piracy, I'm just making a point.
-Corey

Pfft - the one's I've found on free and open torrent sites are all better quality.

Excuse my language, but read my goddamn posts you fucking dumbass. I never said that, I said I'm just not bothered by the fact that there are errors, and all I did with my TV is make the colors look like the Japanese sets, but that doesn't necessarily make it look as good. So shut the fuck up before you make assumptions, 'kay?

[Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece]

Excuse my language, but read my goddamn posts you fucking dumbass. I never said that, I said I'm just not bothered by the fact that there are errors, and all I did with my TV is make the colors look like the Japanese sets, but that doesn't necessarily make it look as good. So shut the fuck up before you make assumptions, 'kay?

I really really thought that one fit. Please don't hurt me ><

Yeah, let's tone down on the "I'm gonna eat your f*cking jugular vein" and get back on topic, please.

I personally dislike the cropping, and the brightening, and all of that. Except for all of the head-chopping moments and such, I've learned to block it out and accept it's probably the best we're going to get.

[VegettoEX]

Excuse my language, but read my goddamn posts you fucking dumbass. I never said that, I said I'm just not bothered by the fact that there are errors, and all I did with my TV is make the colors look like the Japanese sets, but that doesn't necessarily make it look as good. So shut the fuck up before you make assumptions, 'kay?

No, your language and attitude are *not* excused. No-one came to you with such, and your response is not appreciated. If you are unable to conduct yourself in a normal manner, you will be removed from this forum. Thanks for understanding.

Furthermore, if the general population of this forum is unable to continue conversations regarding these boxsets in a respectful and sane manner, I will have no other choice but to not allow them to continue at all. This hurts me and everyone else in fandom as a whole.

[jjgp1112]

One more thing to say: I didn't even NOTICE the cropping until I went to this board. When I bought the set, I just said, "Oh cool, a letterbox." After that, I just watched the show and din't notice that there was cropped footage.

[balrog]

jjp, one thing I've noticed about you is that you always 'have one last thing to say'. Enough already. You're not going to change anyone's minds. Just forget about them, and enjoy the sets. What THEY think about it doesn't really make much of a difference of how you enjoy the sets. Whether it bothers you to your core, and you think they are all wrong; it doesn't matter. The quality isn't as good as others. Plain and simple. Just because it doesn't bother you, doesn't mean it's not true.

Really jjp, enough.

[Kendamu]

Furthermore, if the general population of this forum is unable to continue conversations regarding these boxsets in a respectful and sane manner, I will have no other choice but to not allow them to continue at all. This hurts me and everyone else in fandom as a whole.

Aww. Please don't let one guy cursing up a storm ruin it for everyone!

[Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece]

Dude, cursing is just the tip of the iceberg. Pretty much every topic to regard any kind of footage at all has the box set scrutinized in some manner. I'm starting to get sick of it.

It's okay to joke every once in a while but when every single thread starts turning into a giant DBox vs Season Set flame war and there are people jumping from the roof tops and dropping their children out of windows to safety... Yeah. You can tell where I'm going with this.

Seeing as pretty much every flaw has been addressed, I really see no need for this topic anymore.

[Kendamu]

Yeah. I got sick of it for awhile, too. That's why I just took a break from either these kinds of threads or just took a break from the forum altogether.

In the end, I'm up for Orange Brick discussion still going on whether I'm a part of it or not. I mean, with Season 3 coming out next month why not rehash old arguments? It'll get everyone up to speed when we see what FUNimation has in store for us next month.

[KinoFourpaws]

Furthermore, if the general population of this forum is unable to continue conversations regarding these boxsets in a respectful and sane manner, I will have no other choice but to not allow them to continue at all.

I know of a few people on here who might like that. >.>

Yeah. I got sick of it for awhile, too. That's why I just took a break from either these kinds of threads or just took a break from the forum altogether.

In the end, I'm up for Orange Brick discussion still going on whether I'm a part of it or not. I mean, with Season 3 coming out next month why not rehash old arguments? It'll get everyone up to speed when we see what FUNimation has in store for us next month.

... Aahjdsfhgdjajgljalfdsjkalkfgdfsl... *foams* Not in an angry way, just...

I think that's the point, though, Kendamu. They're OLD arguments. The people who keep talking about this Orange Brick issue are REHASHING it, REUSING it. And even with new little discoveries to nitpick over for this next set, the resulting argument is going to be the same. Just how many times do we need to go through this kind of thing?

Really, while people are going to complain about the issue (and people are going to complain about the people complaining) to some extent no matter what, I don't see any reason why people should keep bringing this whole Season Set thing up as time wears on. Like I said... the main arguments brought to the table have been getting REALLY old. I mean, we could not have ANY more threads, discussions, etc. on this matter anymore and any new forum member with half a brain can skip back a few pages and get filled in on EVERYTHING people seem to be so upset about here regarding these releases. Unless FUNi pulls something completely new and utterly nerve-wracking out of their asses with the next releases that's worth pointing out, or if they by some random miracle actually improve on them instead (gaspage! How farfetched an idea! But you know it is possible, even if only remotely so), why bother persisting in discussing it? We KNOW what's wrong with the set; we KNOW what FUNi did to sell it; c'mon, isn't that enough? If people still decide they like it or want to keep buying it instead of going for something of better quality, just chalk it up to their own decision/willful ignorance and leave it at that.

How do you expect to convince someone of anything when he's already made up his mind otherwise regardless of the facts? And how well do you expect him to take said facts if you're repeatedly trying to shove them down his throat when he disregards them? Clarification is good, but if it hasn't worked for certain people already, chances are good that it won't work for them in the future. Not unless you want to beat their heads with it. -_-

My point is... while he's proven a bit rude about pushing his plea, I have to agree (at least on a general level) with jjgp's initial post. Just what is the point in complaining? Or rather, what's the point in CONTINUING to complain? You have your preference as to which version you want to see; if someone doesn't care about which version they get, they just don't care. It's unfortunately kinda hard to break someone's apathy about anything. Meanwhile... you know which version you like better, or which to you is superior, so more power to you. Just... leave it at that.

Ehh... one man's trash is another man's treasure, or whatever. These Season Sets? They're exactly like that.

(Did any of this rambling make sense... ?)

[Kendamu]

People who want to see FUNi do better will keep arguing the point because, at least to them, there's hope in getting at least one more person to not continue buying FUNi's DBZ garbage sets. That leads to hope that if sales numbers tank, then FUNi needs to treat Dragonball Z with the respect it deserves and with the quality that fans (especially longtime fans) deserve.

If you don't agree with that idea and have simply give up on the idea of FUNimation doing something right, then I guess that's your outlook.

On a sidenote, I'm not trying to convince people in this thread to not buy the Orange Bricks. I'm just trying to say that even if it's the same crap in every thread about it, at least it's only one thread at a time (as opposed to the board being spammed with this topic) and you do have the option to simply not look at the thread. If the topic keeps coming up, then obviously there are people here who think it's worth discussing.