Insert songs in Dragon Ball Z.

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Insert songs in Dragon Ball Z.

Post by Dr. Casey » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:35 pm

Is the part where...

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Gohan goes Super Saiyan 2












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... the only part in Dragon Ball Z accompanied by an insert song? I hope not. Insert songs were very frequent in the original series, almost to the point of being superflous (I might be mistaken, but I swear I remember one instance where the exact same song was played two episodes in a row - 29 and 30 or thereabouts). It would make the sequel seem much drier to not have that habit upheld.

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Post by Herms » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:56 pm

There are at least three in Dragon Ball, which Kanzentai documents here. As for Z, there's one in the episode about the history of Planet Vegeta and one during a flash-back Trunks has. I can't remember their names offhand, or if there were any others.

Also, I think you can pretty much go without spoiler warnings here. Practically everyone here knows the major points of the story.
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Post by desirecampbell » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:58 pm

Herms wrote:Also, I think you can pretty much go without spoiler warnings here. Practically everyone here knows the major points of the story.
Also, I could see the entire post without scrolling anyway :P

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Post by Dr. Casey » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:12 pm

Herms wrote:There are at least three in Dragon Ball, which Kanzentai documents here. As for Z, there's one in the episode about the history of Planet Vegeta and one during a flash-back Trunks has. I can't remember their names offhand, or if there were any others.

Also, I think you can pretty much go without spoiler warnings here. Practically everyone here knows the major points of the story.
Three other Dragon Ball songs come to mind. Yamucha's theme song (episode 88), Red Ribbon Army (episode 65 or 66), Revive Upa's Dad Celebration Anthem (Episode 78). The original series is ripe with insert songs. I'm glad to hear that there's at least two others, though. I like insert songs. I wish other series would use them with the frequency Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon do.

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Post by Vegard Aune » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:13 am

As far as I know, there were 4 insert-songs in the DBZ TV-series, and 3 in the movies/TV-specials:
"Shura-iro no Senshi" when Kaio told Goku the history of Planet Vegeta
"Battle Points Unlimited" when Trunks killed Freeza (Not really a song, but it's apparently considered an insert-song anyway.)
"Mind Power... Ki" when Trunks was having a flashback to his own past, shortly before Cell appared.
"Unmei no Hi ~ Tamashii VS Tamashii" when Gohan turned Super Saiyan 2 for the first time.
"Solid State Scouter" played twice in the Bardock-special, though again, that's not technically a song.
And then there's "Tenkaichi Gohan" in movie 1 and "Piccolo-san Daisuki" in movie 2.
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Post by jamie_sweeney » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:01 am

I always thought the tune that played when Vegeta died on Namek (and when everyone else dies too I guess) was an insert song.
I take it I got that wrong? Woopsy :lol:

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Post by Adamant » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:02 am

Vegard Aune wrote: One when Trunks killed Freeza (Not really a song, but it's apparently considered an insert-song anyway.)
If that counts, then Solid State Scouter counts too.

Also, Tenkaichi Gohan and Piccolo-san Daisuki from the two first movies, if we're counting those.

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Post by Vegard Aune » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:30 am

Adamant wrote:
Vegard Aune wrote: One when Trunks killed Freeza (Not really a song, but it's apparently considered an insert-song anyway.)
If that counts, then Solid State Scouter counts too.

Also, Tenkaichi Gohan and Piccolo-san Daisuki from the two first movies, if we're counting those.
Yeah, I guess, but I didn't count the movies and TV-specials in there. Just the normal episodes.
*Goes back to add those*

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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:49 pm

This should be a complete list of all the insert songs, no matter how they were used (for example, "Muten Rôshi no Oshie" plays on a car radio of a character in a scene, rather than something along the lines of "Unmei no Hi"):

"Mezase Tenka-ichi" -- DB episodes 19, 28, 86, 95
"Fushigi Wandârando" -- DB episode 29
"Doragonbôru Densetsu -- DB episodes 30, 33, 35, 76
"Son Gokû Songu" -- DB episode 43
"Reddo Ribon Âmî" -- DB episode 48
"Moeru Hâto de ~Reddo Ribon Gun o Yattsukero~" -- DB episode 65
"Aoki Tabibito-tachi" -- DB episode 78
"Urufu Harikên" -- DB episode 87
"Muten Rôshi no Oshie" -- DB episode 130

"Shura-Iro no Senshi -- DBZ episode 20
"BP∞ Batoru Pointo Anrimiteddo" -- DBZ episode 120
"MIND POWER...Ki..." -- DBZ episode 139
"Unmei no Hi ~Tamashii tai Tamashii~" -- DBZ episode 184

"Tenka-ichi Gohan" -- DBZ movie 1
"Pikkoro-san Da~isuki" -- DBZ movie 2
"Kuchibue no Kimochi" -- DBZ movie 4
"Soriddo Sutêto Sukautâ" -- DBZ TV SP 1
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Post by Kid Trunks » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:48 pm

"Shura-Iro no Senshi -- DBZ episode 20
"BP∞ Batoru Pointo Anrimiteddo" -- DBZ episode 120
"MIND POWER...Ki..." -- DBZ episode 139
"Unmei no Hi ~Tamashii tai Tamashii~" -- DBZ episode 184
Wait a second. Does this mean there was only ever 4 insert songs in Dragonball Z?

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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:56 pm

Kid Trunks wrote:Wait a second. Does this mean there was only ever 4 insert songs in Dragonball Z?
In the DBZ TV series? Yes.
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Post by Castor Troy » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:00 pm

With the 10 million image songs on the DBZ cds, I can't believe there were only 4 insert songs in the entire series. :?

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Post by Kid Trunks » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:06 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Kid Trunks wrote:Wait a second. Does this mean there was only ever 4 insert songs in Dragonball Z?
In the DBZ TV series? Yes.
Wow. Would I be right in assuming that there are times during the series that maybe deserved (or just needed) an insert song? Like when Vegeta fights Cell after he shoots Trunks? Or when Vegeta sacrifices himself against Buu? Or when Goku tells everyone at Kami's lookout that Gohan and Vegeta are dead? And ofcourse, an insert song at the end of the series perhaps?

There are many more moments than what I listed above (obviously). I don't know if all of those should have had an insert song, but some of them atleast.

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Post by Raki » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:38 pm

Are the insert songs in Dragonball in the dub, or are they in the original audio only?
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.

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Post by TripleRach » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:59 pm

Castor Troy wrote:With the 10 million image songs on the DBZ cds, I can't believe there were only 4 insert songs in the entire series. :?
What's funnier about that is that DB pretty much only ever had the one vocal album, and at least half the songs on it were used in the series.
Raki wrote:Are the insert songs in Dragonball in the dub, or are they in the original audio only?
The only ones left in the dub were Moeru Heart de in episode 65, Dragon Ball Densetsu in episode 76, Aoki Tabibitotachi in episode 78, and Mezase Tenkaichi in episode 86. And most of those were drowned out by added dub narration. Oh, and Mezase Tenkaichi in 19, but that episode only had the instrumental intro to it anyway, with no vocals.

Obviously there's some inconsistency about Mezase and Densetsu, since they left them in in some episodes, but cut them from others. (They cut out Mezase again even after they had already left it in once.) So it can't possibly be a rights issue. Some people have suggested it might have to do with the songs being gone on Toei's dialogue-free "international" audio masters, but other dubs have apparently left some of those songs in that FUNi cut from their dub, so that probably isn't it either. :?
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Post by Super 17 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:38 pm

My favorite DB insert song has to be Fushigi Wonderland. For DBZ it's the one in Ep. 184 ( It's too long to write lol).

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Post by Casual Matt » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:24 am

VegettoEX wrote:
Kid Trunks wrote:Wait a second. Does this mean there was only ever 4 insert songs in Dragonball Z?
In the DBZ TV series? Yes.
And at least one of those was instrumental.

Also, I think the statute of limitations on spoilers for DBZ ran out a while ago.

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