Live Action Ozaru Goku leaked?

[JAPPO]

Guys.

While it's hard to say you don't have good points about JAPPO, he deserves the same amount of level-headed respect as everyone else. At the end of the day, he is another member of the community, and the derisive words aren't really necessary. =/

I have to give it to Dragonball purists for being the most hostile group of fanboys I've seen. Even more so than... *shivers* twilighters.

It's just so odd to me, because I've always seen Akira Toriyama as a laid back guy who is just happy that he's been so successful and that so many people love his work. I could be totally wrong and he could be like Alan Moore though.

Heh, the creator of "Watchmen" is totally against the movie, yet EVERYONE is dying to see it. It's like the total opposite of this situation.

But it is quite fun to argue about such pointless stuff. I'm glad other people exist that really have nothing better to do.

[Herms]

I just hope that Piccolo Vs. the Great Fish comes out OK...

By great fish I take it you mean "Oozaru" Goku?

So he's Wolfman/Alien/Lizard/Fish? :lol:

Ah, so this movie has Goku transforming into his greatest enemy - the big fish from the first chapter/episode. See, this movie really does pay attention to the original after all!

[JAPPO]

Like Vegetto EX or ... most other movie website owners?

Last time I checked, VegettoEX never came on to the boards and taunted people about having information that he didn’t intend to reveal.

And there is such a thing as having a source who could get into trouble if I posted all they said. I thought I was just trying to encourage Gozar by saying there ARE things you don't know about the movie that you may like, I didn't know everyone would be such a douchebag about it.

Bullshit. If you really cared that much about your sources you wouldn’t bring up the sensitive material in the first place. Just moments ago you admitted to playing favorites with forums in regards to releasing what you knew; I’m sure your buddies on the inside would definitely appreciate telling dbthemovie but not DaizEX, as if that even makes a difference once it’s on the Internet. This game of cat-and-mouse has nothing to do with protection and everything to do with ego-gratification. If you really want people to stop “being such douchebags” maybe you should stop being one yourself for a change.

Mentioning that I know of stuff is not really telling anyone sensitive information.

And of course I wouldn't post it anywhere without permission.

But I'm done, continue flaming me and my site, the people who really appreciate the work I put into it is why I continue running it. And I'm sure information from my site will be passed onto this forum via "second hand" sources.

[Acid_Reign]

I have to give it to Dragonball purists for being the most hostile group of fanboys I've seen. Even more so than... *shivers* twilighters.

You blame “the purists” (as if that has anything to do with people being fed up with you), yet you keep coming here seeking validation from them. Curious.

Mentioning that I know of stuff is not really telling anyone sensitive information.

Not only do you mention it, you teeter on telling us vs. not telling us depending on if we kiss your ass or not. If I were a source and that material could get me fired I definitely wouldn’t appreciate that kind of ambivalence coming from a trustee.

And of course I wouldn't post it anywhere without permission.

the people who really appreciate the work I put into it is why I continue running it

Yet you simply can not resist posting that you know, can you? You want to rub it in everyone’s faces. Tell me: why on earth should we appreciate that?

[Snail]

Acid didn't really flame you JAPPO, if you re-read that spew of text once more, you'll realize that he's just letting you know how you usually behave...albeit in a somewhat hostile fashion.

I for one appreciate the effort that you put into your site.

Concerning the film itself. I am a rabid-Dragonball fan, but at the same time I'm open to any 're-inventing' that should go along with the live-action film as long as it's not detracting so far out of it's source material. Let's face it; the story has to be warped, if not a lot, then atleast a little bit in order to fit the time constraints a film has. The attire of the main cast of protagonists and antagonists however is a different story. It's only fair to keep everything as close to the source as possible without deviating way too out there. It's just frustrating when the creative minds behind a said film-adaptation for instance; decides to take the liberty in unnecessarily creating brand new characters, unheard of from it's original source in order to move the story along.

In the end however, it's the result of the film that counts. From what I remember, the 'Casshern' (beautiful film) wasn't exactly a direct adaptation to original, but it succeeded in it's style of execution; a saving grace for the movie.

[JAPPO]

Acid didn't really flame you JAPPO, if you re-read that spew of text once more, you'll realize that he's just letting you know how you usually behave...albeit in a somewhat hostile fashion.

I for one appreciate the effort that you put into your site.

Concerning the film itself. I am a rabid-Dragonball fan, but at the same time I'm open to any 're-inventing' that should go along with the live-action film as long as it's not detracting so far out of it's source material. Let's face it; the story has to be warped, if not a lot, then atleast a little bit in order to fit the time constraints a film has. The attire of the main cast of protagonists and antagonists however is a different story. It's only fair to keep everything as close to the source as possible without deviating way too out there. It's just frustrating when the creative minds behind a said film-adaptation for instance; decides to take the liberty in unnecessarily creating brand new characters, unheard of from it's original source in order to move the story along.

In the end however, it's the result of the film that counts. From what I remember, the 'Casshern' (beautiful film) wasn't exactly a direct adaptation to original

Thank you.

It can be disappointing that something you've grown to love is adapted in a way that isn't what you're used to. I personally dislike the idea of Goku attending high school, but I actually can see myself enjoying the scenes if done properly.

I won't deny this is a Hollywood film with some typical Hollywood cliches, but I still think there's enough faithfulness and enough thought put into the changes that they can be fun, if nothing else.

It may not be a masterpiece the first time, but I'm sure it'll be fun enough to warrant the price of admission. And who knows, it could be a total surprise to some.

If nothing else, I've got the movie to thank for talking with some really cool people. And some fun debating.

Dragonmelons DD from DBMF made an excellent manip.

[Magica]

Are you sure it's not just a Zora for a secret Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time movie?

(Yes, I know there isn't such a thing, but one can dream).

[Olivier Hague]

Even if it flopped in the U.S., it won't flop worldwide.

Oh, it could flop worldwide.

Heh, the creator of "Watchmen" is totally against the movie

King didn't like Kubrick's The Shining either.
Could someone think of some other completely inappropriate comparisons? Maybe we'll end up convincing ourselves that the Dragon Ball live-action movie is motion picture history in the making.

[Pain]

Like Vegetto EX or ... most other movie website owners?

Last time I checked, VegettoEX never came on to the boards and taunted people about having information that he didn’t intend to reveal.

And there is such a thing as having a source who could get into trouble if I posted all they said. I thought I was just trying to encourage Gozar by saying there ARE things you don't know about the movie that you may like, I didn't know everyone would be such a douchebag about it.

Bullshit. If you really cared that much about your sources you wouldn’t bring up the sensitive material in the first place. Just moments ago you admitted to playing favorites with forums in regards to releasing what you knew; I’m sure your buddies on the inside would definitely appreciate telling dbthemovie but not DaizEX, as if that even makes a difference once it’s on the Internet. This game of cat-and-mouse has nothing to do with protection and everything to do with ego-gratification. If you really want people to stop “being such douchebags” maybe you should stop being one yourself for a change.

Mentioning that I know of stuff is not really telling anyone sensitive information.

And of course I wouldn't post it anywhere without permission.

But I'm done, continue flaming me and my site, the people who really appreciate the work I put into it is why I continue running it. And I'm sure information from my site will be passed onto this forum via "second hand" sources.

Look, JAPPO, you're cool and all, but do you have to add more suspense to a forum that has plenty of it already? I'm not trying to offend you or anything, because I do check your site frequently for updates on the film, but could ya lay off of the mondo suspense? It's just not mondo suspenseful(I bet no one will get the reference that I just made). But anyway, if there is information that you're hiding, please PM me about it.

[desirecampbell]

Seriously, Jappo, you're a huge dick. If you aren't at liberty to discuss something, then you aren't at liberty to discuss it, at all. This includes saying you know it, but can't tell us.

At best, you're trying to make yourself look important and influential; at worst, you're trolling. How about this: if you have anything to add to the current conversation, do so; otherwise, shut the fish-faced-Chatwin up.

[Kaboom]

Oh geez, I saw this coming.

And I don't mean Movie-Ozaru.


Sorry, Jappo, I'm gonna stay out of this one. Might be a good idea for you to bail and escape the den of lions, too.

[VegettoEX]

So what are everyone's thoughts?

I don't really know who this "JAPPO" person is (beyond seeing them post here occasionally regarding movie stuff), but it's pretty obvious where all of these threads end up each and every time. There are two identical factors in each and every case, common across all of these threads:

(1) It's a live-action movie thread
(2) This "JAPPO" person either starts the thread or contributes

That leads me to a pretty obvious conclusion (which I would assume anyone with half a mind could also draw), but I'm extremely interested in hearing additional opinions. This is a community, and the community is welcome to express their opinions.

[Rocketman]

This doesn't look too bad, as a 'skull' that they'll add the fur onto later with CGI.

[Kaboom]

@Rocketman: I think/hope so, too. It really looks to me like something incomplete that will get CGI work or something-or-other later on.

@VegettoEX: If you're asking whether Jappo needs to be banned or similarly dealt with, then absolutely not.

He merely reports news concerning the movie (that he's not always happy about either), but often becomes the misplaced outlet of people's bitchiness merely because his sources are a little ambiguous. He's a bit pissy himself at times, but that's what happens when you've got an immensely suddenly-popular site to manage single-handedly, something I'm sure you can relate with.

The movie threads ending up filled with arguments not because of any one person just reporting the news. If Jappo were banned or otherwise not around anymore, then he's right, I would be the one to bring news over.

Whether or not the threads continue to devolve into shit-flinging sessions is all up to the crazy monkeys who start them in the first place, not the zookeeper that feeds them.

[Conan the SSJ]

If Ms. Nozawa and the other seiyuu dub it in Japanese, I'll listen to the audio and not watch the video.

You and me both.

EDIT: Wait, if he's the Great Fish now, does that make Piccolo Captain Ahab?

*Imagining Piccolo sitting in a boat wearing yellow fisherman's gear and a grizzly beard smoking a pipe while chasing after the white whale and going "Argh, thar she blows." with full 'grizzled old sea-dog' accent.*

Chu... you are the absolute coolest. THANK YOU for being the one thing in these live-action threads to make me laugh. *high-fives*

I'm kinda so-so opinionated on this possible-"Oozaru" shot. Mainly because like many others, I'm trying to look at it from a mid-transformation perspective as well. But hell, I'm really hoping this doesn't become Incredible Hulk meets Fish Guy (anyone seen that Buffy Season 2 episode "Go Fish"?). I would greatly prefer a giant ape on par to King Kong, which as a "big" live-action movie, was done years ago and so a subtly different take on a live-action "giant monkey" Oozaru wouldn't be cliche, ripping-off, or parody-ish IMO.

Unlike the sympathetic King Kong, Oozaru Goku comes off as the embodiment of "Kakarrot" from my perspective in that he's a psycho like all Saiyans while physically speaking, has pointy ears, brown fur (as opposed to black), and pure red eyes to neatly differentiate him from Kong. In any case, if that is the finished product, that'll definitely be one of the biggest embarrassments for the film IMO, and that's already on top a buttload of other elements. On a separate topic, I find it kinda lazy for Fox's effects people to supposedly not start developing the "real SFX" until friggin Fall in the year. I mean why wait so long, especially when shooting has been done for half a year?

I can see James Marsters on Planet Krypton for cryin' out loud over on Smallville and that's something he filmed after DragonBall and aired only two months after that movie was filming; see how easy it is to make these "SFX"? Hollywood movies like these should spend more time focusing on their effects when the theater date isn't drawing so close IMO, otherwise we get flicks like the third Mummy that come off as too cheesy. Yes, I'm complaining about special effects focus, mainly because I'd probably get too depressed talking about the movie's plot and character personalities.

And oh yeah, if it hasn't sunken in yet to some of you, I'm not seeing this movie.

[TheGreatness25]

Oh yeah. That definitely doesn't look fake. I've seen plastic Halloween masks that look better.

[JulieYBM]

Guys.

While it's hard to say you don't have good points about JAPPO, he deserves the same amount of level-headed respect as everyone else. At the end of the day, he is another member of the community, and the derisive words aren't really necessary. =/

I have to give it to Dragonball purists for being the most hostile group of fanboys I've seen. Even more so than... *shivers* twilighters.

It's just so odd to me, because I've always seen Akira Toriyama as a laid back guy who is just happy that he's been so successful and that so many people love his work. I could be totally wrong and he could be like Alan Moore though.

Heh, the creator of "Watchmen" is totally against the movie, yet EVERYONE is dying to see it. It's like the total opposite of this situation.

But it is quite fun to argue about such pointless stuff. I'm glad other people exist that really have nothing better to do.

Everbody before hand hasn't screwed up his series though, have they?

EDIT: Also, that Oozaru looks like the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

[Onikage725]

I second Kaboom on both counts. That looks like something that will be touched up when the FX crew gets their hands on it.

If not... well I like it, but not at all for Ozaru...

And about the thread and JAPPO... hell just reading the last three pages, I BEG you to lock it. It went nowhere, and it went there fast.

But I don't think banning JAPPO is any more fair than banning the people arguing with him.

Sure, the "insider" bit is hard to swallow. But what's more inflammatory? Him saying he's heard that it's an unfinished shot? Or, after making a reconciliation post to distance himself from the 1 vs everyone argument that followed, Desire calling him a "huge dick." No offense to Desire (you know I've got nothing but respect for you), but if we're gonna start talking about inappropriate discussion... it takes two (or in this case 5 or 6) to tango.

[Gozar]

I have to give it to Dragonball purists for being the most hostile group of fanboys I've seen. Even more so than... *shivers* twilighters.

You're just figuring this out now? XD

You've been around these Forums long before the LA Movie announcement, you should know the rabid tendency.

Though on a side note. I'm hardly a purist and yet I still hate the film to death.

[Olivier Hague]

Whether or not the threads continue to devolve into shit-flinging sessions is all up to the crazy monkeys who start them in the first place, not the zookeeper that feeds them.

Hmm...

I love how you all eat the shit that Toei and FUNimation make.

Making a remastered DVD costs what? How much does the packaging cost? And you paid what, 40 dollars for it?

Yet you think you won't pay 10 dollars to see a $100 million dollar live-action movie adaptation supported by a major movie studio?

...

You (both) sound a bit... biased.