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by Bierhoff
Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?
Replies: 55
Views: 20333

Re: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?

Dragonball GT doesn't follow the same power rules as Dragonball/Z. All the Z-fighters powered up immensely over the course of the series, so it would be natural for others to do that aswell.
by Bierhoff
Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?
Replies: 55
Views: 20333

Re: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?

Cell and Freeza was a lot stronger, so was all the humans that escaped HFIL. Nappa was stronger. Hell, Android 17 and 18 were stronger. Why wouldn't the doctor be stronger too?

The Zet-Senshi expected someone a lot stronger than Freeza, and Piccolo wouldn't come unprepared. It's likely he was ...
by Bierhoff
Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:40 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Do #19 and Gero visually mirror Goku and Vegeta's natures?
Replies: 9
Views: 2052

Re: Do #19 and Gero visually mirror Goku and Vegeta's nature

I surprisingly agree with this, although altered a bit.

Dr. Gero and 19 mirrors the way it was supposed to be, if Kakarot never lost his memories.
by Bierhoff
Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:29 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Should Beerus replace Vegeta as Goku's rival?
Replies: 61
Views: 12145

Re: Should Beerus replace Vegeta as Goku's rival?

Vegeta will always be THE rival for Goku. Much like Piccolo was at the beginning, albeit for a short time.

But Goku has the ability to make anyone his friend, no matter who and the history.
by Bierhoff
Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Korin survive for years without food in the manga?
Replies: 3
Views: 953

Re: Can Karin survive for years without food in the manga?

Karin is a deity, so I assume he can survive more than any mortal man. That's just conjecture though, he might need food at a regular basis.
by Bierhoff
Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:23 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Yajirobe
Replies: 5
Views: 1128

Re: Yajirobe

Yamcha seemed to do better than Yajirobe at fighting Kami at the end of DB, so I agree with your placement.

I dunno, I think Kami wanted to make more of a point of humiliating Yamcha. He was just toying with him.

Even though Kami wasn't super-serious about the fight, he did praise Yamcha for ...
by Bierhoff
Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?
Replies: 55
Views: 20333

Re: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?

1. Everybody is a lot stronger in GT, this is not disproven once. Gero would not be the same level he was in Z.

2. Piccolo at the time was comparable to the SSjins, and the last SSjin Krillin saw was Vegeta, when he fought A19.

3. Pan knocked Rild on the ground, and he's comparable to Gohan-Boo ...
by Bierhoff
Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:18 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?
Replies: 55
Views: 20333

Re: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?


Super Oob could fight Super Baby 2, while SS3 Goku couldn't do shit not only against Super Baby 2, but not even against Vegeta-Baby. Super Oob is much stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku.

Pan on the other hand is only stronger than Dr. Gero, and some Evil Dragons that are child's play for base Goku ...
by Bierhoff
Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:08 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?
Replies: 55
Views: 20333

Re: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: ... So, Pan is far stronger than SS3 Goku?! And SS2 Vegeta is also far stronger than SS3 Goku?!
Vegeta was SSJ4 at the end of GT, so I consider that his strongest form, regardless of what SSJ2 > SSJ4 enthusiasts say. SSJ3 Goku is still stronger than SSJ2 Vegeta and Majuub, aswell.
by Bierhoff
Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta retcon in the Buu arc?
Replies: 7
Views: 2080

Re: Vegeta retcon in the Buu arc?

I think Vegeta wanted to enter to test his skills against Gohan, but once Goku said he wanted to join aswell, he changed his goal.
by Bierhoff
Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?
Replies: 55
Views: 20333

Re: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?

That's the impression I got from GT. The more important you are, the stronger you are. Goku obviously being the strongest, with Vegeta in second. Pan arguably at third, with Majuub close.
by Bierhoff
Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?
Replies: 55
Views: 20333

Re: Is Pan stronger than Gohan, Goten, and Trunks?

By the end of GT, due to importance, she is at least stronger than Goten and Trunks, even when they are in SSjin form.
by Bierhoff
Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why did Pan join Goku to fight the Shadow Dragons?
Replies: 23
Views: 4016

Re: Why did Pan join Goku to fight the Shadow Dragons?

Because she's strong and stubborn. And sneaky.
by Bierhoff
Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ
Replies: 56
Views: 7085

Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Whether Piccolo Daimao is 160 or 260, the power levels doesn't work on this scale anyway. That's why people seperate them and start anew when Z begins.
by Bierhoff
Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:14 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Strongest Female in Dragon Ball, Z, and GT
Replies: 23
Views: 6747

Re: Strongest Female in Dragon Ball, Z, and GT

Pan. She knocked Rild down and mocked a Shadow Dragon's speed, this after the fight with Liu Xing Long.
by Bierhoff
Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:09 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the others?
Replies: 46
Views: 7029

Re: Which Z Fighter would be most likely to betray the other

Vegeta is most likely to betray the Zet-Senshi. He has already proven that by letting Cell transform and by letting Babidi take over his mind (albeit not completely).

I'd say Piccolo comes in second, as he has a past of crimes.
by Bierhoff
Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ
Replies: 56
Views: 7085

Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

I concede, but there is really no indication Krillin is even close to Tenshinhan.
by Bierhoff
Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ
Replies: 56
Views: 7085

Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Kakashi wrote: On topic: Tenhinhan expected Goku would be much stronger than he was vs Piccolo and still thought he might have a chance to beat him
That was anime-only if I recall correctly. Tenshinhan only remarked things about Goku's speed in the manga.
by Bierhoff
Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ
Replies: 56
Views: 7085

Re: BOZ Chaoutzu's Battle Power?

Kakashi wrote:
Tenshinhan should be way stronger than Piccolo Daimao and Tenshinhan is not that much tronger than Krillin
Tenshinhan isn't necessarily that much stronger than Piccolo Daimao. He has most likely just surpassed him, but not by a whole lot.
by Bierhoff
Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:50 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ
Replies: 56
Views: 7085

Re: BOZ Chaoutzu's Battle Power?


23rd Budokai Krillin > Piccolo Daimao

Piccolo says that with people like Krillin, ruling the world might be harder than he thought

Though Yamcha is uncertain. BOZ Yamcha is not much stronger than EOD Yamcha so I think he would be about equal to Piccolo Daimao

Krillin has improved, but not to ...