Kanzenshuu

She's not that attractive IRL.
6.5/10

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I don't think that he needs a ki signature for short distances. The ki signature is used to pinpoint the location he wants to go, but for short distances, he can use his eyes to do that (as we saw against Super #17 in GT).

Super 17 had ki though.

Didn't Nuova Shenron dish out attacks hotter than the sun?

He said that he could make his body hotter then the sun if he wanted too. If his attacks were hotter then the sun then he would have burn the Earth's surface.

Even if it was only as hot as the sun it still would/should have easily ...

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Really? The average adult fighting Saiyan? First off, we have no idea what that really looks like besides random movie stuff, and
second off Goku in the Freeza arc seems pretty much like him in SSG to me. He was an adult, a fighting Saiyan, and was not a bundle of muscle like when he turned SSJ ...

If you think thin and lithe is malnourished what do you think those Olympic runners are...? This isn't the colonial times where fat was considered healthy because you had too much food to eat.

Comparatively to an average adult sized Saiyan(that's why i bolded it)... yes, SSJ God does look a ...

This is more SSJ God than the original design IMO. What do you guys think?
No.


The only issue I have with SSj God's design is the fact that Goku gets thinner.
Opinionated design factors aside, there just can't be a (good) reasonable reason for that.
Unless SSJ God's speed is augmented better ...

Goku could be stronger than in the 5th movie than he was in the manga. The movie was released before Goku transformed in Super Saiyan in the manga, so they had no idea that Freeza would be able to put a fight against Super Saiyan Goku, unlike the even stronger Coola who was defeated in no time ...

MFG/ MyFavoriteGames. Fun times.

Vegetto we only saw was SSJ.
Surely he could go SSJ2 or SSJ3 if needed putting him higher than SSJGOD
Right???

This fine poster right here knows what the deal is.
But is says "strongest being in history of Z", shouldn't that include Vegetto at full power, even if he didn't actually used that ...

King Kai said SSjin GoHan in the Cell Games might be stronger than Goku but yet the difference was noticeable. The "might" is to build up drama.

King Kai said "Oh shit I have never felt such a ki" which implies a big gap gap between Hatchiyack to Broly.

The difference actually wasn't really all ...

Hatchiyack is much stronger than M8 Broly. King Kai had never felt a power like that. M8 LSSjin Broly is at most Cell Games FPSSjin Gohan IMO so I think Hatchiyack should be good deal above the Cell Games FPSSjins.

Nah. Goku states his power "may" be greater than Broly's. Since Goku isn't totally ...

A notch stronger than the suppressed Perfect Cell FPSSJ Goku fought. A good deal weaker than FP Perfect Cell.
Unlike the non-FPSSJ Goku in movie 8, FPSSJ Goku can apparently destroy Hatchihyakku in one fully charged full powered Kamehameha. http://youtu.be/D3raFx6J54c?t=2m51s
Since he's stated a bit ...

It's been at least 4 months since then during the Evil Dragons arc, and Bulma said that Vegeta was training harder than he ever did, so he probably got closer to Goku by doing that.

The only gap in time was after the Baby arc. Considering SSJ Goku can handle initial -unserious Super 17 in his SSJ ...

Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:I don't have much reasons to justify this, except I remember a few translations of Vegetto referring to Gokuu as "Kakarotto" whilst Gogeta refers to him as "Gokuu".

That's only because Vegetto(himself) = Vegeta + Kakarrotto.

I'm not so sure about this. The only way to compare Goku & Vegeta in GT is through their battles against Super #17, and they both got beaten up in a similar way, except that Vegeta got beaten even worse because he even tried to fight Super #17 in base. So yeah, I see Vegeta weaker than Goku, but ...

Was Vegeta that much weaker that Goku?

Yes.
The first amplifier required a full moon (Earth, in that case), to absorb the Bruits Waves and increase them by a thousand times. The second amplifier could generate waves on it's own.

Along with the second amplifier being called an Ultra-Amplified ...

The state seems to have varying multipliers.
Perhaps dependent on what kind of Brutes waves the individual was given.
The Bruits Waves just recover the power, it doesn't give extra strength. At least that's what I understood.

You realize bruits waves are the basis for the Golden Ozaru/SSJ4 ...

The state seems to have varying multipliers.
Perhaps dependent on what kind of Brutes waves the individual was given.

Initial Goku's SSJ4 ended up weaker(seemingly by just a bit) than Vegeta-Baby's Golden Ozaru due to normal brutes waves.
Golden Ozaru Vegeta-Baby was given 'amplified brutes waves ...